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SM-liiga 2000-01 Mod; in progress
Topic Started: Apr 10 2013, 12:11 AM (2,946 Views)
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Also, after looking at these clips, MAYBE there's a chance we could do some kind of ices for the teams. It's just a few ads really, maybe we could find enough youtube clips to get something started? Even if it's just for a few teams it would be cool. Otherwise I was thinking of either A: just using the FHR 04 ices or B: making "fantasy" vintage ices using the team's respective sponsors from the boards/jerseys. I recognize a couple ice ads from that HIFK clip, maybe somebody more familiar with the league would be able to decipher ads that look unfamiliar to me? Just some rambling thoughts after a long day at work.
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Maybe you can get the idea of Helsingin Jäähalli ice ads from this clip?

HIFK-Ilves 2001.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk8BBpgBM_o

Ilves-HIFK (Tampere)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XrMlQZMFEo

Hartwall Areena:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPa3K36498

Lots of 2000-2001 clips on YouTube.
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Looking at the Ilves-HIFK clip, the Tampere ice looks REALLY similar to the FHR 04 ice. Thanks for the links Trent, I'll keep track of what we find and with some luck maybe we could get most of the teams' ices, and for the other ones we can at least have the 2000-01 boards. It seems like a small thing, but there's something really cool about seeing the PlayStation ads, even something that small helps give it that "vintage" feel.
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And I'll just throw this out there - is there any chance there is a website somewhere that has game recap videos from 2000-01? I know mtv3.fi still has news articles up from back then, maybe there's some video clips? I will find everything I can on youtube, but it would be amazing if there was a treasure trove of SML video clips from like 1999-2002 somewhere.
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No I don't think so... YouTube is pretty much the only source for this stuff. Unfortunately... unless of course you install NHL 2001 with the SML addition.

NHL01 at least had those ices... dunno how accurate those were though.
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@Ocelar - I extracted the .fsh files for the boards and also downloaded a boards template...they're definitely smaller, but if I'm doing this correctly it looks like they can be stretched to fit the NHL 2004 template. They're a little blurry but it's not too bad really. Here's the extracted .fsh boards at their original size:

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And here I attempted to put them on the boards template, but I've never done this before so I don't know if I'm doing it right. Hopefully this will be a simulation of how they would look if we stretched them like this.

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Any thoughts? These are HIFK boards BTW.
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Would this help you with some ice or board adds? Let me know if you also need some stuff from NHL2001 SML Addition disc

Other end of Hartwall Areena in FHR 2000 mod
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@Apollo - thanks for the screenshot and help! As far as the ice/boards go, I THINK that the FHR 01 will have everything we need. The main issue is that even if the 2001 pack has all the correct boards, they are still at too small a size to directly "insert" into the NHL 2004 templates. So we will end up having to resize everything. If I was correctly editing the boards with the template in my previous post, I think we will be able to insert the extracted 2001 files and stretch them to fit the template. It will sacrifice some quality and look blurry but I don't think it's too bad. The only other option would be painstakingly trying to find a higher resolution image of every board ad and making new ones (kinda like what I'm doing with jerseys). But that would be so tenuous that I think it's better to just stretch them to fit.

The biggest issue to me is ices. The screenshot you posted definitely helps and gives us an idea of what center ice looked like, but we need ice ads for all the faceoff circles etc from the 2000-01 era. When it comes time to work on ices I figure we'll look at youtube videos and try to see what ads the teams used and try to get ices as close to the real ones as possible, but even that will be a lot of work. Anyway, thanks again for your help, stay tuned because we could really use all the help we can get!
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ASSAT HOME (v2):

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KARPAT AWAY:

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Pretty much done with all the home/dark jerseys except for minor tweaks. Still need to do TPS and Tappara but I thought I'd do Karpat's white jersey to see how long it would take (about 10 minutes) so I'm in good shape to have all jerseys done in a few days!

@Ocelar - don't know how busy you are, but is there any chance you could get started on rosters (just player names)? Also, if you do that would you do height/weight/birthdates or just names? Either way is fine with me, just curious!
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Some arena pics (from FHR 2000 mod, NHL 2000) for jumbotron/board/ice add help (click pic for larger pic):

Elyse Areena, TPS:
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Helsingin Jäähalli, HIFK:
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Hartwall Areena, Jokerit:
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Äijänsuon Areena, Lukko:
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Kisapuiston jäähalli, SaiPa:
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Here's some more previews, just have Tappara and Blues left and then I'll be done with all home jerseys. For both Tappara and Blues I will end up using the FHR 04/06 jerseys since they are the same as the 2000-01 jerseys (except for a couple ads).

PELICANS AWAY (from FHR 2004):
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Just knocked out most of the white/away jerseys. Besides minor tweaking and in-game testing, I have ALL jerseys done for every team except for SaiPa and Lukko!

EDIT: And obviously I will have to do helmets/gloves/numbers/letters for all teams, but from what I've observed most of the numbers and letters are used in 2004/2006 jerseys, so I'll just be inserting them into the .fsh files. Also, most of the helmets in FHR 2001 are just blank with no ads, so I'll just be doing generic blank helmets since it would be nearly impossible to find out what ads EVERY team had on their helmets.
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So here are the away jerseys minus Pelicans (which I displayed in my previous post), Blues and Tappara. Feels good to have jerseys 99% done (just gotta test and tweak)! Moving onto rosters/facepacks next.

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